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A little reading comprehension for you...

kc — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:17:40 -0700

As I clearly stated in the original post, I'm not criticizing Palin or her family for her daughter's pregnancy. All I did was point out how if she were a Democrat, the GOP would declare open season on her. Fortunately, Democrats are a bit more human than that.

And again, you have McCain, campaigning on experience, picking the least experienced conservative he could find. Why? She's the only anti-choice female conservative on the list. Yet you can insist that it's strictly about appealing to conservatives? Maybe you need to expand your group of "many others" to include a few other opinions.

And this revisionist history that anything said about Hillary by Obama's people was even close to what conservatives said to her in the 90s is just a slow pitch over the middle of the plate. Here's the quote of Olbermann you cite:

"And thus these advisers give Congresswoman Ferraro nearly a week in which to send Senator Clinton`s campaign back into the vocabulary of David Duke; 'anytime anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says, let`s address reality and the problems we're facing in this world, you`re accused of being racist, so you have to shut up. Racism works in two different directions. I really think they are attacking me because I'm white. How's that?'"

Gee, one media pundit saying the Clinton campaign descended "back into the vocabulary of David Duke" is clearly just as bad as major conservative talk radio and TV hosts calling her a murdering lesbian over and over for years on end. Please cite those leftists who are using these very same smears against Hillary, and not some freak who has a free blog with five readers.

And because Olbermann accused the Clinton campaign of resorting to racism, that makes him and all Obama supporters misogynists?

Look, the Democrats have always been a big tent party, with lots of different views. What keeps them together is an adherence to promoting issues dealing with freedom and equality for everyone. Hillary Clinton seems to understand this. Why don't you?

Graciousness in victory? No, just sadness that people like yourself would be such sore losers that you would risk putting John McCain in office by clinging to this PUMA pipe dream of a convention coup that would make Hillary president. Hopefully now that the convention is over, you can come inside the tent. If not, I hope you can live with John McCain's policies towards women's rights, and still claim it's the people on the left who are the misogynists.

Do you really think McCain

bluelyon — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:38:26 -0700

Do you really think McCain picked Palin strictly to appease conservatives?

Yes I do. And so do many others. And you have to admit, she's created a lot of buzz. Not an endorsement of her at all, but my goodness, she sure has a lot on the left in a tizzy!

And let's get over this crap that anyone who would dare criticize a female candidate is a misogynist.

That is not what I'm saying and you know it. I have no issue with her being criticized on the issues, and heaven knows, there are plenty of them. That's not what's been going on. Look, I've got family members who've had teenage daughters wind up getting pregnant. I bet you know well-meaning, caring parents too whose children found themselves facing the same situation. Teens, no matter how well (or poorly) they are raised can take a wrong turn. It is wrong to make an assumption about Sarah and Todd Palin just because their teen daughter wound up pregnant. Would you want that done to you? Would you want your fitness to be a reporter judged by how chaste your kids were?

The issue of the double standard over the treatment of Palin's pregnant teen daughter would apply equally if her name were Steve. Imagine if Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant at 17. Conservatives would slither from beneath every rock to blast both Bill and Hillary for being poor parents, and making the case that they are bad for America.

Absolutely agree, on both statements. But I thought WE were the good guys. Is that really how you want us to behave? Not only that, but Barack has told his supporters to cool it. Yet you persist.

Were you alive in the 90s when many on the Right was calling Hillary a lesbian, a drug dealer and a murderer?

Yes Kirk, I'm older than you. I remember every last sleazy moment. It sucked.

I'm not aware of anyone on the left who has come even close to that.

Then you haven't been paying attention. Pretty much every rightwing smear made it's way to the blogs and elsewhere, and we even had Keith Olbermann calling Hillary David Duke. So, yeah, they came as close as the rightwing slime machine.

It makes your sour grapes over the whole Hillary losing thing show through.

Wow. Such graciousness in victory.

Really?

kc — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:58:19 -0700

Do you really think McCain picked Palin strictly to appease conservatives? Then I have some oceanfront property in Lyon County to sell you. How many other conservatives are there who have far more experience and far fewer scandals swirling around them? Dozens. McCain didn't even know Palin personally. She has limited executive experience, no foreign policy experience and no national political experience. Hell, she's only left the country once in her life, and that was last year. And this pick was made by the candidate who has made experience the main issue of this campaign? Please.

Actually, what this shows is that McCain is a reckless decision maker. It's obvious he didn't vet Palin very well. He wanted Joe Lieberman, but the conservatives wouldn't stand for that, so he quickly chose the conservative candidate he thought might help him on two fronts, regardless of the fact that she's grossly unqualified for the job to be the VP to a 72-year-old cancer survivor who has made noises about only serving one term.

And let's get over this crap that anyone who would dare criticize a female candidate is a misogynist. The issue of the double standard over the treatment of Palin's pregnant teen daughter would apply equally if her name were Steve. Imagine if Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant at 17. Conservatives would slither from beneath every rock to blast both Bill and Hillary for being poor parents, and making the case that they are bad for America. They are equal opportunity slime merchants who have time and again used every dirty trick in the book against Democrats, but cry foul if you turn even a fraction of the attack back at them.

Are there Democrats who are sexist? You bet. But that sexism pales in comparison with what goes on in the Republican Party, where sexism is a major plank of their platform. Were you alive in the 90s when many on the Right was calling Hillary a lesbian, a drug dealer and a murderer? I'm not aware of anyone on the left who has come even close to that. Stop trying to equate the two. It makes your sour grapes over the whole Hillary losing thing show through.

A few thoughts

bluelyon — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:47:49 -0700

Disclaimer: Any comments that I make that go against the left-wing story arc does not mean I'm voting for John McCain.

Anon - McCain's choice was strictly to shore up his conservative base. Lieberman would have brought him nothing. My conservative R friends (yes, I have some and it pays to listen to them) have felt about McCain the way many on the left felt about Kerry (holding their noses votes) and Palin gives them an ultra-conservative to hang their hats on.

Kirk - Yes, I would completely expect this from the Rs. I thought the Ds were better than that. That's what we keep patting ourselves on the back for, right? Oh. Wait. I forgot. Any woman politician the left doesn't like will be subjected to the same sort of treatment the right has dished out these many years. Misogyny, it's not just for right-wingers any more.

And before you start making statements about what Sarah Palin did or did not teach her daughter or did as governor check your sources. You are a reporter, right? See Megan's post at Jezebel (a liberal and feminist blog, BTW). Snippet:

Because, for one, most schools in Alaska do teach comprehensive sex-ed, and the Alaska Department of Education & Early Development offers schools a choice of curricula that include programs focusing on abstinence without endorsing a specific program. In fact, there have even been debates in Alaska since the start of Palin's tenure whether exempting children from comprehensive sex ed is constitutional. Palin's statements on abstinence-only education date to one questionnaire from a right-wing group during her campaign in 2006 when asked the following question:

Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?

In answer to that leading question which conflates comprehensive sexual education with condom and Pill distribution, her campaign answered:

Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.

In the last year and a half, searches of her office's website and the Guttmacher Institute revealed no abstinence-only initiatives by her administration. Simply put, Sarah Palin is by no means the world's biggest promoter of abstinence-only education, as some people are claiming.

Ah, but that would ruin the story-line, wouldn't it?

Serves them right

Undecided — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:14:29 -0700

Palin was a staunch opponent of sex education in schools. So she got what she asked for (btw this remark in no way applies to her daughter).

I'd like to know what med McCain was on when he chose himself a VP. She won't win him any democrats because of her views but she just may turn off enough conservatives that they would either don't vote at all or go Libertarian.

Joe Lieberman would've been a far wiser choice - still good enough for many republicans (they don't really have a choice do they ?) while attracting some undecided moderates, especially some undecided Jewish voters.

Or, he could go all republican and chose Romney - although then his chances to win moderates with no party affiliation would've been slimmer.

Just my $.02

John mcCain wants a 200,000

Dan — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:09:51 -0700

John mcCain wants a 200,000 increase, and to answer your question the military is at a breaking point. Out stretched beyond comprehension. Even if we were not in Iraq it would be under staffed. You have no idea what your talking about. Making the military larger is a smart move.

Experience?

kc — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:33:53 -0700

Do you really think politics as usual wouldn't go on under Hillary? Look at what happened when Bill was president.

And if you want to vote for experience, then why not Dick Cheney? He has more experience than McCain and Obama combined. Experience isn't everything. McCain's policies are the mirror opposite of Hillary's. Do you want 100 years of war in Iraq? Do you want a president whose first reaction to any crisis is to go to war? Do you want more tax cuts for the rich, and endless deficit spending? Do you want to keep the same health care system we have now? Do you want to outlaw abortion?

What you are really saying is that the issues don't matter. It's just a personality contest, and since your favored candidate didn't win, you'll vote for the other side out of spite.

The War (Hillary) Is Over?

Sonia — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:16:35 -0700

Politics has continued and will continue as "usual" if Obama is elected. He like all the others didn't listen to 18 million.
Call me a die heart, call me anything,
but mainly call me a democratic voting for a republican with experience.
Sonia L. Hill

Human Cloning ProhibitionAct! regarding Scarlet Johansson(actrs)

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:21:41 -0700

I would like inform you that Scarlett Johansson (actress)actually is a clone from original person,who has nothing with acting career.Clone was created illegally by using stolen biomaterial. Original person is very nice(not d**n sexy),most important-CHRISTIAN young lady!I'll tell you more,those clones(it's not only one)made in GERMANY-world leader manufacturer of humans clones,it is in Ludwigshafen am Rhein,N. Bavaria, Mr.Helmut Kohl home town.You can't even imaging the scale of the cloning activity.But warning!H.Kohl clone staff 100% controlling their clones spreading around the world,they are very accurate with that, some of them are still NAZI type disciplined and mind controlled clones,be careful get close with clones you will be controlled too.Original family did not authorize any activity with stolen biological materials,no matter what form it was created,it all needs back to original family control to Cedars-Sinai MedicalCenter in LA.Original Scarlett is not engage,by the way!

Human Cloning Prohibition Act of 2003!

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:15:44 -0700

Mr Obama is a German made CLONE !

God knows when this racism

Tyrone — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:39:26 -0700

God knows when this racism will come to an end!

Yes definitely race matters

Ryan — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:17:36 -0700

Yes definitely race matters everywhere in this dirty world

Obama

William Barrot — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:36:16 -0700

In my opinion, this has nothing to do with race. Obama is a very carismatic individual, and by far the best candidate. I wouldn´t vote for a man because of his skin color!

Captcha change

kc — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:44:02 -0700

I found a way to change the captcha that should be much easier to use. It asks you to solve a simple math problem instead of figuring out a distorted bunch of letters.

Wish I didn't have to use the captcha, but the comment spam started getting really bad.

No i don't think so:)

Dueces — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:02:42 -0700

No i don't think so:)